hakbisanzio ([info]hakbisanzio) wrote,

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Saturday, before coming here, where for a minunderstanding I have to stay until next week, I had a real beautiful Saturday. With friends at Buridda, a social centre (squatted), where they made a tribute to the Ramones. Suddendly I realised that we were dressed like in the old times, all with Eskimos. Dancing and laughing, drinking cheap bier. Good. We also decided to restart, after four years to play risk again. Great. I am reading the ten days that shock the world. I read it ten years ago, but now it has got a completely different taste. John Reed's prose and narration flow with order and passion through the difficulties of that days in front of history. I am literally divouring it. Now I have to stop turning pages, otherwise I will finish it too soon. Another peculiar thing was to listen MIA by Germs, at the station in Torino. I cannot concentrate in the last couple of week about writing things in m life journal.

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[info]missaline

December 9 2005, 11:46:53 UTC 6 years ago

I cannot concentrate in the last couple of week about writing things in m life journal.

I know what you mean, too.

Anonymous

December 9 2005, 22:41:24 UTC 6 years ago

>Suddendly I realised that we were dressed like in the old times, all >with Eskimos.

What does this mean? The suggestion eludes me.

In Canada we have a football team (american style, with helmets) called the Edmonton Eskimos, but the name is reviled -- the word is considered degoratory. 'Eskimo' is a French adaptation of an Algonquin word that means 'those who eat raw flesh'. In the Canadian artic, the Eskimos refer to themselves as Inuit, 'men', Innu or Inuk (and in Russia, Yupik). You might use Inuit instead, if you are locating your Eskimos in North America. This is largely why I ask about the line I quoted above: where have you mapped the Eskimo in your imagination?

I hope this doesn't come off sounding preachy, but then, it's hard for me to avoid preachiness when discussing Native American issues.

patrick

[info]hakbisanzio

December 10 2005, 01:05:49 UTC 6 years ago

Don't worry

I know what you mean, but Eskimo is an Italian jacket which is ( or better used to be) wore just by people who are extreme left wing. It is a sort of aesthetic border line. Always welcome to defend Native American. Thnak you for the philological lesson as well. Ciao

[info]hakbisanzio

December 10 2005, 01:06:45 UTC 6 years ago

Don't worry

Hello Patrick,
I know what you mean, but Eskimo is an Italian jacket which is ( or better used to be) wore just by people who are extreme left wing. It is a sort of aesthetic border line. Always welcome to defend Native American. Thnak you for the philological lesson as well. Ciao

Anonymous

December 9 2005, 22:43:32 UTC 6 years ago

>Suddendly I realised that we were dressed like in the old times, all >with Eskimos.

What does this mean? The suggestion eludes me.

In Canada we have a football team (american style, with helmets) called the Edmonton Eskimos, but the name is reviled -- the word is considered degoratory. 'Eskimo' is a French adaptation of an Algonquin word that means 'those who eat raw flesh'. In the Canadian artic, the Eskimos refer to themselves as Inuit, 'men', Innu or Inuk (and in Russia, Yupik). You might use Inuit instead, if you are locating your Eskimos in North America. This is largely why I ask about the line I quoted above: where have you mapped the Eskimo in your imagination? Where does he live? It should change how you refer to him.

I hope this doesn't come off sounding preachy, but then, it's hard for me to avoid preachiness when discussing Native American issues. Learning is the priority, in any case.

patrick

[info]hakbisanzio

December 10 2005, 01:07:24 UTC 6 years ago

Don't worry

Hello Patrick,
I know what you mean, but Eskimo is an Italian jacket which is ( or better used to be) wore just by people who are extreme left wing. It is a sort of aesthetic border line. Always welcome to defend Native American. Thnak you for the philological lesson as well. Ciao

Anonymous

December 10 2005, 04:41:37 UTC 6 years ago

Ah so! The scene described makes perfect sense now, but was so muddled before. I sincerely hope you'll forgive my lame political reflexes.

The Italian extreme left-wing... I've been reading A Violent Life, and developing a very romantic picture of radical politics. Dirt-poor Roman fascists ripping off gas stations and partying too much... Pasolini paints an weirdly attractive portrait. I'm sure you've read it, but on the chance you haven't don't hesitate. And sorry for posting twice - that wasn't on purpose.

best, patrick

Anonymous

December 11 2005, 19:33:57 UTC 6 years ago

Una Vita Violenta, yes, I read it. It is beautiful. I am curoius to know how it has been translated in another language. Pasolini somehow hellenicised the dialect of the Roman suburbs. Yes Pasolini had a tolerant and benevolent sight on every exploited person. Especially on unaware people like young fascists or many policeman, who entered the militia, just because of desperation. You should read the poem about the 68, the first rebellion who took place in Valle Giulia, the university of architecture in Rome. I am glad you read Pasolini, who is one of the truest radical left-wing Italian intellectual of the last thirty years.
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